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[KL] TRS to guitar amp
Jon Hartmann jphartmann@sbcglobal.net [KurzList]
2018-01-15 19:54:45 UTC
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howdy folks.. I have a K2500 that I want to go stereo to two Peavey bandit 12" amps..should I use TRS cables to the amp? or just reg. guit phono 1/4" cables?
Steve Daniels stevedanielson1@yahoo.com [KurzList]
2018-01-15 20:07:54 UTC
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Regular guitar cables would do it, if you’re using the main outputs on the synth.
Why were you thinking of using TRS cables? And have you tried the K2500 through a guitar amp? Most synths don’t sound good through guitar amps, for reasons ranging from the single, 10” (or 8” or 12”) speaker to the high impedance load at the input.

Steve

On Monday, January 15, 2018, 2:54 PM, Jon Hartmann ***@sbcglobal.net [KurzList] <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

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Jon Hartmann jphartmann@sbcglobal.net [KurzList]
2018-01-15 20:52:33 UTC
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thank u.i also have Peavey KB300s w/ horns..but i wanted to try stereo with the 12"re the TRS..i guy at Guit Center told me TRS was better(maybe for recording?)

On Monday, January 15, 2018 12:12 PM, "Steve Daniels ***@yahoo.com [KurzList]" <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


  Regular guitar cables would do it, if you’re using the main outputs on the synth.
Why were you thinking of using TRS cables? And have you tried the K2500 through a guitar amp? Most synths don’t sound good through guitar amps, for reasons ranging from the single, 10” (or 8” or 12”) speaker to the high impedance load at the input.

Steve
On Monday, January 15, 2018, 2:54 PM, Jon Hartmann ***@sbcglobal.net [KurzList] <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
  howdy folks.. I have a K2500 that I want to go stereo to two Peavey bandit 12" amps..should I use TRS cables to the amp? or just reg. guit phono 1/4" cables?


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kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com [KurzList]
2018-01-15 21:12:43 UTC
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Jon,

Argh... I should check things more carefully...

Since the Peavy is a Keyboard Amp, it should work with unbalanced cables.

You would need the Ebtech only if you wanted to gain the advantage of
balanced lines -- if your cable run is less than 15-25 feet then
unbalanced will probably be ok.

-- Kevin
Post by Jon Hartmann ***@sbcglobal.net [KurzList]
thank u.i also have Peavey KB300s w/ horns..but i wanted to try
stereo with the 12"re the TRS..i guy at Guit Center told me TRS was
better(maybe for recording?)
On Monday, January 15, 2018 12:12 PM, "Steve Daniels
  Regular guitar cables would do it, if you’re using the main
outputs on the synth.
Why were you thinking of using TRS cables? And have you tried the
K2500 through a guitar amp? Most synths don’t sound good through
guitar amps, for reasons ranging from the single, 10” (or 8” or 12”)
speaker to the high impedance load at the input.
Steve
On Monday, January 15, 2018, 2:54 PM, Jon Hartmann
  howdy folks.. I have a K2500 that I want to go stereo to two
Peavey bandit 12" amps..should I use TRS cables to the amp? or just
reg. guit phono 1/4" cables?
werner schoenenberger sinserli@yahoo.com [KurzList]
2018-01-16 09:10:11 UTC
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kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com [KurzList]
2018-01-15 21:09:11 UTC
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Hi Jon,

Your K2500 produces a line-level output signal. If your guitar amps
have instrument-level (i.e., guitar) inputs only, then it is likely
that your K2500 will overdrive the input of the guitar amps (which
will produce clipping/distortion).

A TRS cord will not be helpful in this case because the guitar amp's
input is unbalanced.

To keep the advantage of balanced lines while using the guitar amp,
you might consider the use of a box, such as the Ebtech
hum-eliminator. In addition, you would need attenuating patch cords
to drop the level from line down to instrument level: You would use
normal TRS from the K2500 to the Ebtech then unbalanced, attenuating
patch cords from the Ebtech to the Guitar Amp.

If you have a mixer, then you could use it instead of the Ebtech and
attenuating patch cords. Run TRS from the K2500 to the mixer, then
unbalanced cables to the guitar amps. You should be able to adjust
the mixer's output level so that it does not overdrive the guitar amp.

Good luck!

-- Kevin
Post by Jon Hartmann ***@sbcglobal.net [KurzList]
thank u.i also have Peavey KB300s w/ horns..but i wanted to try
stereo with the 12"re the TRS..i guy at Guit Center told me TRS was
better(maybe for recording?)
On Monday, January 15, 2018 12:12 PM, "Steve Daniels
  Regular guitar cables would do it, if you’re using the main
outputs on the synth.
Why were you thinking of using TRS cables? And have you tried the
K2500 through a guitar amp? Most synths don’t sound good through
guitar amps, for reasons ranging from the single, 10” (or 8” or 12”)
speaker to the high impedance load at the input.
Steve
On Monday, January 15, 2018, 2:54 PM, Jon Hartmann
  howdy folks.. I have a K2500 that I want to go stereo to two
Peavey bandit 12" amps..should I use TRS cables to the amp? or just
reg. guit phono 1/4" cables?
Jon Hartmann jphartmann@sbcglobal.net [KurzList]
2018-01-16 00:33:43 UTC
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yo Kevin...thanks.. does the Peavey KB300 also have that issue of being overdriven?

On Monday, January 15, 2018 1:31 PM, "***@kevinkissinger.com [KurzList]" <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


  Hi Jon,

Your K2500 produces a line-level output signal. If your guitar amps
have instrument-level (i.e., guitar) inputs only, then it is likely
that your K2500 will overdrive the input of the guitar amps (which
will produce clipping/distortion).

A TRS cord will not be helpful in this case because the guitar amp's
input is unbalanced.

To keep the advantage of balanced lines while using the guitar amp,
you might consider the use of a box, such as the Ebtech
hum-eliminator. In addition, you would need attenuating patch cords
to drop the level from line down to instrument level: You would use
normal TRS from the K2500 to the Ebtech then unbalanced, attenuating
patch cords from the Ebtech to the Guitar Amp.

If you have a mixer, then you could use it instead of the Ebtech and
attenuating patch cords. Run TRS from the K2500 to the mixer, then
unbalanced cables to the guitar amps. You should be able to adjust
the mixer's output level so that it does not overdrive the guitar amp.

Good luck!

-- Kevin
Post by Jon Hartmann ***@sbcglobal.net [KurzList]
thank u.i also have Peavey KB300s w/ horns..but i wanted to try
stereo with the 12"re the TRS..i guy at Guit Center told me TRS was
better(maybe for recording?)
On Monday, January 15, 2018 12:12 PM, "Steve Daniels
  Regular guitar cables would do it, if you’re using the main
outputs on the synth.
Why were you thinking of using TRS cables? And have you tried the
K2500 through a guitar amp? Most synths don’t sound good through
guitar amps, for reasons ranging from the single, 10” (or 8” or 12”)
speaker to the high impedance load at the input.
Steve
On Monday, January 15, 2018, 2:54 PM, Jon Hartmann
  howdy folks.. I have a K2500 that I want to go stereo to two
Peavey bandit 12" amps..should I use TRS cables to the amp? or just
reg. guit phono 1/4" cables?
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kkissinger@kevinkissinger.com [KurzList]
2018-01-16 01:32:23 UTC
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Hi Jon,

Since the KB300 is a keyboard amp, it will accept line-level input
signals. You could just plug a cable from the K2500's output to the
KB300.

On the rear panel of the KB300, there is a block diagram that shows
the inputs, gain structure, and signal flow.

Suggest that you turn your K2500's Master Volume all the way "up",
then set the Input level on your KB300 as loud as you can without
distorting the KB2500s output (test this with the loudest patch that
you intend to use).

Then use the KB300's Master Volume to set the overall volume. This
method will give you the best dynamic range and the least amount of
hiss/noise.

Enjoy!

-- Kevin
Post by Jon Hartmann ***@sbcglobal.net [KurzList]
yo Kevin...thanks.. does the Peavey KB300 also have that issue of being overdriven?
On Monday, January 15, 2018 1:31 PM,
  Hi Jon,
Your K2500 produces a line-level output signal. If your guitar amps
have instrument-level (i.e., guitar) inputs only, then it is likely
that your K2500 will overdrive the input of the guitar amps (which
will produce clipping/distortion).
A TRS cord will not be helpful in this case because the guitar amp's
input is unbalanced.
To keep the advantage of balanced lines while using the guitar amp,
you might consider the use of a box, such as the Ebtech
hum-eliminator. In addition, you would need attenuating patch cords
to drop the level from line down to instrument level: You would use
normal TRS from the K2500 to the Ebtech then unbalanced, attenuating
patch cords from the Ebtech to the Guitar Amp.
If you have a mixer, then you could use it instead of the Ebtech and
attenuating patch cords. Run TRS from the K2500 to the mixer, then
unbalanced cables to the guitar amps. You should be able to adjust
the mixer's output level so that it does not overdrive the guitar amp.
Good luck!
-- Kevin
Post by Jon Hartmann ***@sbcglobal.net [KurzList]
thank u.i also have Peavey KB300s w/ horns..but i wanted to try
stereo with the 12"re the TRS..i guy at Guit Center told me TRS was
better(maybe for recording?)
On Monday, January 15, 2018 12:12 PM, "Steve Daniels
  Regular guitar cables would do it, if you’re using the main
outputs on the synth.
Why were you thinking of using TRS cables? And have you tried the
K2500 through a guitar amp? Most synths don’t sound good through
guitar amps, for reasons ranging from the single, 10” (or 8” or 12”)
speaker to the high impedance load at the input.
Steve
On Monday, January 15, 2018, 2:54 PM, Jon Hartmann
  howdy folks.. I have a K2500 that I want to go stereo to two
Peavey bandit 12" amps..should I use TRS cables to the amp? or just
reg. guit phono 1/4" cables?
werner schoenenberger sinserli@yahoo.com [KurzList]
2018-01-16 09:10:24 UTC
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