[KL] Identifying these patches from Richard Wright (of Pink Floyd)

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I recently stumbled across this fellow who had acquired Richard Wright's keyboard that he used in the 90's (this keyboard in question is a K2000 Orchestral Rom) and I was wondering if any of you would be able to identify if the patches being used are stock Kurzweil sounds (or something other than being manually programmed) or if they were manually programmed using VAST (which I assume is probably the case knowing how complex Pink Floyd's synthesizer setups typically were). The link to the YouTube video is of the guy who acquired it.

Now there isn't exactly many sounds to work with in this particular video. This is one of many examples (one could also reference some of Floyd's 90's material for a better representation). I figure if I could get a definitive answer on just a few of the patches here, and find out that it's been manually done, I could go ahead and assume that the remainder of the patches on this keyboard are probably done through VAST.


At the beginning, I'm hearing some strings being used and piano throughout. Sounds like some sort of pad is accompanying the piano near the end. So what do you think? Stock or programmed through VAST?

http://youtu.be/-fp29WtdMp4



Thank you in advance!

[Steve Worley [e-mail] [KurzList]]

This all sounds like pretty standard stuff to me. I don’t hear anything particularly amazing about any of it so I’m curious why you care whether the sounds were stock programs or not. Is it because it’s Wright’s keyboard? Having come from an analog synth background, I’d really be surprised if he did anything with VAST aside from slight adjustments to already existing patches on the kurzweil. Those of us who learned synthesis with analog keyboards where you can grab any knob and instantaneously shape the sound as you wish have rarely had the patience required for digital programming which is an incredible pain in the ass. But I could be wrong.


On Jul 16, 2017, at 2:25 AM, ***@comcast.net [KurzList] <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

I recently stumbled across this fellow who had acquired Richard Wright's keyboard that he used in the 90's (this keyboard in question is a K2000 Orchestral Rom) and I was wondering if any of you would be able to identify if the patches being used are stock Kurzweil sounds (or something other than being manually programmed) or if they were manually programmed using VAST (which I assume is probably the case knowing how complex Pink Floyd's synthesizer setups typically were). The link to the YouTube video is of the guy who acquired it.


Now there isn't exactly many sounds to work with in this particular video. This is one of many examples (one could also reference some of Floyd's 90's material for a better representation). I figure if I could get a definitive answer on just a few of the patches here, and find out that it's been manually done, I could go ahead and assume that the remainder of the patches on this keyboard are probably done through VAST.

At the beginning, I'm hearing some strings being used and piano throughout. Sounds like some sort of pad is accompanying the piano near the end. So what do you think? Stock or programmed through VAST?

http://youtu.be/-fp29WtdMp4 http://youtu.be/-fp29WtdMp4

Thank you in advance!

[Matthew Rubenstein [e-mail] [KurzList]]

By the 1990s (even by 1981) Rick Wright wasn't programming his
own keyboards at all anymore. He wasn't even a member of Pink Floyd
once they finished recording _The Wall_ without him at all, but just a
paid live player for promotional purposes, nor on _The Final Cut_. By
_A Momentary Lapse of Reason_ his keyboards were all customized by
techs, especially since they'd switched to digital. Even his live PF
"solos" 1987 onwards were almost all sequences. By 1996 his _Broken
China_ solo album (no PF members) was like a Kurzweil synth demo -
mostly (perhaps entirely) programmed by Anthony Moore.

Just to be clear, this is not a criticism of Wright personally.
He'd suffered from clinical depression for decades when he died in
2008, and wasn't well enough to do more than he did. But consequently
his K2000 contains mostly, possibly entirely, the work of other people.

This all sounds like pretty standard stuff to me.  I don’t hear
anything particularly amazing about any of it so I’m curious why you
care whether the sounds were stock programs or not.  Is it because
it’s Wright’s keyboard?  Having come from an analog synth background,
I’d really be surprised if he did anything with VAST aside from
slight adjustments to already existing patches on the kurzweil.
 Those of us who learned synthesis with analog keyboards where you
can grab any knob and instantaneously shape the sound as you wish
have rarely had the patience required for digital programming which
is an incredible pain in the ass.    But I could be wrong.
I recently stumbled across this fellow who had acquired Richard
Wright's keyboard that he used in the 90's (this keyboard in question
is a K2000 Orchestral Rom) and I was wondering if any of you would be
able to identify if the patches being used are stock Kurzweil sounds
(or something other than being manually programmed) or if they were
manually programmed using VAST (which I assume is probably the case
knowing how complex Pink Floyd's synthesizer setups typically were).
The link to the YouTube video is of the guy who acquired it. 
Now there isn't exactly many sounds to work with in this particular
video. This is one of many examples (one could also reference some of
Floyd's 90's material for a better representation). I figure if I
could get a definitive answer on just a few of the patches here, and
find out that it's been manually done, I could go ahead and assume
that the remainder of the patches on this keyboard are probably done
through VAST.
At the beginning, I'm hearing some strings being used and piano
throughout. Sounds like some sort of pad is accompanying the piano
near the end. So what do you think? Stock or programmed through VAST?
http://youtu.be/-fp29WtdMp4
Thank you in advance!

[Steve Worley [e-mail] [KurzList]]

Very interesting. His analog synthesis work was very inspiring to players like me learning programming in the 70s, and I will always love his great ear and wonderful sonic choices, especially from Dark Side of the Moon through Animals. A great artist!



On Jul 16, 2017, at 1:21 PM, Matthew Rubenstein ***@mattruby.com [KurzList] <***@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

By the 1990s (even by 1981) Rick Wright wasn't programming his
own keyboards at all anymore. He wasn't even a member of Pink Floyd
once they finished recording _The Wall_ without him at all, but just a
paid live player for promotional purposes, nor on _The Final Cut_. By
_A Momentary Lapse of Reason_ his keyboards were all customized by
techs, especially since they'd switched to digital. Even his live PF
"solos" 1987 onwards were almost all sequences. By 1996 his _Broken
China_ solo album (no PF members) was like a Kurzweil synth demo -
mostly (perhaps entirely) programmed by Anthony Moore.

Just to be clear, this is not a criticism of Wright personally.
He'd suffered from clinical depression for decades when he died in
2008, and wasn't well enough to do more than he did. But consequently
his K2000 contains mostly, possibly entirely, the work of other people.

Post by Steve Worley ***@cox.net [KurzList]
This all sounds like pretty standard stuff to me. I don’t hear
anything particularly amazing about any of it so I’m curious why you
care whether the sounds were stock programs or not. Is it because
it’s Wright’s keyboard? Having come from an analog synth background,
I’d really be surprised if he did anything with VAST aside from
slight adjustments to already existing patches on the kurzweil.
Those of us who learned synthesis with analog keyboards where you
can grab any knob and instantaneously shape the sound as you wish
have rarely had the patience required for digital programming which
is an incredible pain in the ass. But I could be wrong.
I recently stumbled across this fellow who had acquired Richard
Wright's keyboard that he used in the 90's (this keyboard in question
is a K2000 Orchestral Rom) and I was wondering if any of you would be
able to identify if the patches being used are stock Kurzweil sounds
(or something other than being manually programmed) or if they were
manually programmed using VAST (which I assume is probably the case
knowing how complex Pink Floyd's synthesizer setups typically were).
The link to the YouTube video is of the guy who acquired it.
Now there isn't exactly many sounds to work with in this particular
video. This is one of many examples (one could also reference some of
Floyd's 90's material for a better representation). I figure if I
could get a definitive answer on just a few of the patches here, and
find out that it's been manually done, I could go ahead and assume
that the remainder of the patches on this keyboard are probably done
through VAST.
At the beginning, I'm hearing some strings being used and piano
throughout. Sounds like some sort of pad is accompanying the piano
near the end. So what do you think? Stock or programmed through VAST?
http://youtu.be/-fp29WtdMp4 http://youtu.be/-fp29WtdMp4
Thank you in advance!